Am I out of touch?
No, it’s the forward-thinking generation of software engineers that want elegant, reliable, declarative systems that are wrong.
I’m suprised I havnt seen people using nix for docker images more.
NixOS is the most boring distro I’ve ever used.
I configured everything across multiple machines and now it just works.
Sure I guess if you can manage to get everything to work in the first place which involves following sixteen different guides across twenty-three different websites all of which with conflicting information.
How, tho?
Seriously, how do you even get started? It’s like the tutorials are all, “This is a basic ‘Hello World’ module/flake. Now, you are a master.” I would love to figure it out, but I need a little more hand holding.
Yeah, I’ve had the same experience multiple times, people have been raving about it but I can’t find a tutorial that is as noob-friendly as I’d need it.
I went through a NixOS phase, and for a user that isn’t trying to maintain a dev environment, it’s a bloody lot of hassle.
I’m all behind immutable distros even though I don’t particularly have the need for them, but declaritive OSs are kinda niche.
for a user that isn’t trying to maintain a dev environment, it’s a bloody lot of hassle
I agree but I prefer it to things like ansible for sure. I’m also happy to never have to run 400 apt install commands in a specific order lest I have to start again from scratch on a new system.
Another place I swear by it is in the declaration of drives. I used to have to use a bash script on boot that would update fstab every time I booted (I mount an NFS volume in my LAN as if it were native to my machine) then unmount it on shutdown. With nix, I haven’t had to invent solutions for that weird quirk (and any other quirks) since day one because I simply declared it like so:
{ config, lib, pkgs, inputs, ... }: { fileSystems."/boot" = { device = "/dev/disk/by-uuid/bort"; fsType = "vfat"; }; fileSystems."/" = { device = "/dev/disk/by-uuid/lisa"; fsType = "ext4"; }; swapDevices = [ {device = "/dev/disk/by-uuid/homer";} ]; fileSystems."/home/mrskinner/video" = { device = "192.168.8.130:/volume/video"; options = ["x-systemd.automount" "noauto"]; fsType = "nfs"; }; fileSystems."/home/mrskinner/Programming" = { device = "192.168.8.130:/volume/Programming"; options = ["x-systemd.automount" "noauto"]; fsType = "nfs"; }; fileSystems."/home/mrskinner/music" = { device = "192.168.8.130:/volume/music"; options = ["x-systemd.automount" "noauto"]; fsType = "nfs"; }; }
IMO, where they really shine is in the context of declarative dev environments where the dependencies can be locked in place FOREVER if needed. I even use Nix to build OCI/Docker containers with their definitions declared right inside of my dev flake for situations where I have to work with people who hate the Nix way.
Are we back in time 30 years when resettable systems were a new thing and controversial?
Perhaps! I’m a big fan of immutable distros. This meme was inspired by being called an asshole for agreeing with another commment, calling it a skill issue when this one commenter flat out refused to acknowledge ANY of the positive aspects of them.
So you made a meme about how your opponent is completely irrational and you are a paragon of logic and reason, and then proceeded to declare yourself the winner?
Okay so now I have heard of those immutable OS kind of regularly, but what is it and why is it so much better?
Thank you!
As far as I can tell it separates the base os from user changes which could break things by forcing you to use containers by annoying you to death any time you’re trying to permanently install a package.
It’s fine but it seems better for servers than users.