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      This batch of pagers was exclusively ordered and used by Hezbollah after their leader demanded they stop using Smartphones for security reasons. This isn’t is sigint, it was a supply-chain attack. It wasn’t random pagers that exploded, but only those that were distributed by the terrorist org to its officers.

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        Who held the pagers at the time they blew up? I used to love to play with my dad’s pager as a kid.

        Targeting using an electronic device is sigint. These people have families, and the Israeli terrorists murdered children with this attack. Did you read the article?

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          Overwhelmingly, it was military-aged men based on reports, photos and videos. This was a targeted attack on terrorists. Murder requires intent. Do you really think the intent was to murder kids by blowing up pagers purchased by and for internal Hezbollah use? You cannot seriously believe that. If kids died due to this it was 1) wholly unintentional and 2) while tragic, still a byproduct of legal warfare, not terrorism.

          Words have clearly defined meanings. You can’t just make up your own to suit your agenda.

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            A war crime is a war crime. An act of terrorism is intentional. Using SigInt to target is, by definition, going to lead to war crimes.

            This was a terrorist act that was used to murder children, and must be condemned with sanctions.

            This is why targeting shouldn’t be done by SigInt, directed by AI or otherwise.

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        Booby traps are a war crime, because they do not discriminate between civilians and combatants, even if you place them in a location that is only likely to be accessed by combatants. And public markets and banks and homes aren’t that.

        https://theconversation.com/pager-attack-on-hezbollah-was-a-sophisticated-booby-trap-operation-it-was-also-illegal-239360

        A booby trap is defined by the International Committee of the Red Cross, the body charged with oversight and implementation of the Geneva Conventions and related treaties on the law of armed conflict, as a “harmless portable object” – but redesigned to contain explosive material. They are a prohibited means of warfare and are equally prohibited by law enforcement authorities.