These are valid concerns that could certainly prove problematic without further insight. :) Thanks for sharing.

OP here, obviously I have no authority but it would be excellent if we could refrain from rehashing any of this debate here. It tends toward discussions that get my posts removed and I like them to stay up. <3

If you can’t hold yourself back, please continue to be respectful and excellent to one another (you are good so far 🙂).

I’m with you. For my part I am trying to just encourage a space of positivity under these memes, listening to women express their stories of course because that was the original point.

But then once that is said and done, I don’t recommend we ever come back to the bear hypothetical, double down on it, or encourage any man to take it personally. Because yeah while it grabs attention, it’s also rhetorically just very inefficient compared to something as simple as posting bell hooks memes.

this comment section has been so enlightening about the makeup of this side of the fediverse. and all i can say is i am so sorry. i always guessed it was a male-heavy makeup but i never thought it would precipitate this badly.

this community usually veers leftist and toward respecting human dignity, but it appears as soon as women express the pain and fear that is forced upon them for merely existing all of that is lost and their comments are getting 30/70 downvoted, even in conversations where folks have already acknowledged the caveat of the importance of non-alienating.

it’s clear there is a lot of work to be done when one of the most progressive communities i have ever followed is so packed with malinformed spite as soon as the subject comes to humans asking for the basic privilege of safety.

the difference is that the patriarchy exists and favors men. there is no systematic structure that puts Muslims above others, at the expense of others, in a way that is parallel to what the patriarchy does.

i get what you are saying, and maybe not too long ago i was professing quite similar feelings, but i encourage you to self interrogate how big of a difference that is. truly hope this is helpful.

you know what else is pointlessly gendered? the patriarchy

feminist messaging has to be gendered because the patriarchy is a gender issue.

that said, feminism is for everybody. liberating women from oppressive structures by nature does the same for men.