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  • We aren’t talking about security though. We’re talking about what information should be presented on lemmy.

    Let me put it this way: have you personally ever tried to see who upvoted or downvoted a particular lemmy post? And if you did, did you talk about what you saw?

    My point is that currently basically no one sees the data. The expectation is that no one is looking. And it is not socially acceptable to discuss who is voting for what. But if the votes were changed to public then everyone would see it, the expectation would be that it is common knowledge, and so obviously it will be discussed. Is that what we want on lemmy?


  • I’m seeing lots of comments here saying that server admins can already see vote data, and therefore it is not private.

    But from my point of view, having a handful of people able to extract voting data using their position of trust on the lemmy network is very different from broadcasting voting data to everyone on lemmy. And although you can argue that it is possible to create a new server and federate and blah-blah-blah to view votes; that argument sounds to me like “don’t bother locking your front door, because that type of lock can be defeated by a lock-picking tools.”

    And even aside from all that discussion about who can access what; there is another key point that I think is overlooked: Making voter information public makes it ‘normal’ thing to monitor and discuss. Currently there is an expectation that people won’t look at or discuss that information (even if they hypothetically could get access). But by making it public, the expectation then is that everyone will look at that information. That would create a change in tone and meaning of votes and discussion around votes.


  • blind3rdeye@lemm.eetomemes@lemmy.worldRule
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    Hey man, keep fighting the good fight. But know that you are among friends here. You are unlikely to find any Musk fans in this thread. And posts that smell of fascism will be downvoted if mild, and flat out deleted if strong.

    And I think a lot of people here would also agree with you that continuing to use X is tacit support of some bad people and ideals. It’s just a matter of how hard-line you want to go with your guilt-by-association. Posting a screenshot of something that was posted on X is several steps removed from the source. It doesn’t link to the site, or give engagement to the site. So although your chain of reasoning to being against such posts is valid, I think perhaps attacking people for posting such screenshots risks a bit of ‘friendly fire’. I reckon your anti-fascist efforts are better spent elsewhere, where the actions are a bit more clear cut.