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PLANTS HAVE FEELINGS TOO
is #22 on the Vegan Bullshit Bingo:

No, they do not. There is no serious study to suggest that they do. Plants do not have a brain or central nervous system. At most, they respond to stimuli. If you really care that much about the welfare of plants, you should go vegan, since many more plants “die” for animal feeding. Do you feel bad while mowing your lawn? And would you rather rescue a potted plant than a dog from a burning house? Is docking pig tails the same as branch trimming to you? Question upon question…

This is wrong. Nearly all (source) of the soy the Amazonas gets destroyed for is animal feed. We give about one third of the global grain we produce to animals, we could end global hunger if we’d give it to humans. Plus we could reforest vast regions, so we don’t die, as a species. Go vegan please.

This was one incident a hundred years ago. Kinda strange, I have to admit. But do you know why PETA kills so many animals? And do you know that the whole story was published by the dairy industry?

Oh no, it’s you again. I remember talking to you, commie. :)

Is this your reply? Picking words instead of staying in the conversation? Alright:
We pay slaves to kill animals for us because we are accustomed to the taste. What now?

So animals living a happy life without humans making them suffer is good? We both want that, right?

I oppose racism, sexism, trans- and homophobia. And I oppose speciesism as well. It’s the same system: One group considers another group as less valuable and exploits, abuses or fights them.
You just draw the line at you own species.
Animals are innocent, vulnerable and easy to abuse because they don’t have a voice and don’t understand the situation we put them in. If they were human children or mentally disabled humans, we would protect them from harm because of who they are. Instead, we do the most horrible things to them, we take their freedom, their babies, their lifes. In factories, on an industrial scale. Because a pig is just a pig, right?

EDIT: Please reply, don’t just silently downvote. What’s your refutation?

How is this whataboutism? We’re talking about animal rights. A sick cat and a billion suffering mammals are the same topic, no?

I do and I try. Buying beans instead of meat and oat milk for udder milk is a really easy thing to do on a personal level, if you look at the damage you avoid by doing so. Some things can be changed easily, some take efford, some can not be changed at all on a personal level. Buying second hand stuff is rather easy for me as well. Giving up on my car would take much more efford, I’m not ready yet. Getting out of the firm grip of all fossil destroyers is nearly impossible. So, let’s start easy when you shop for groceries next time. :)

Wow you are angry. But I’m not easily offended and up for a debate, if you’d like.

7 Stunden mit dem Zug. Ich melde wenn ich mal in der Gegend bin. :)

You’re probably right. I’d love to talk about that, but in my native language and face to face. This is exausting. :)

I was just talking about the world we live in. If i could abolish pet animal breeding I would. :)

You are a carnist. That’s a political standpoint and philosophical and moral practice as well. You might not consider youself a carnist, you think you’re just normal because eating like a handfull of animals and drinking one animals mothers milk was normalised to you from birth. I was raised a carnist too. Yet it’s a decision, not a necessity. We don’t need meat and milk to survive, we choose to kill animals because we are accustumed to the taste. So we keep the system running.

Come on, now you are paying dumb! :)
A foetus is not alive yet. It’s own it’s way, but it can not survive on it’s own, if it could talk it wouldn’t, because it has not a functioning brain, yet. It doesn’t suffer, yet. Plus there is it’s host, the mother, who’s body is hers to decide what to do.
Pigs, dogs, cows and fish, they are sentient beings who we share the planet with, different but equal.

What would be the rational choice after watching it?

As you might have experienced, it’s pretty hard to be vegan in a carnist world. People talk about animal abuse all the time, they confront you all the time, make fun of you. Most don’t want to talk about it, they want to shut you up. The hate and ignorance is strong and different people react diffrently to that situation. Some stay quiet, like yourself, some get vocal. Some debate, some get angry. Calling vegans insufferable is like calling gays insufferable, or feminists. Some might be. We have recognized a major injustice and we want to change it.

“Bro, did you eat a date? That killed a bee or something. Not cool.”

That’s rage bait and you made it up. Why would anyone say that?

Yeah, adopt don’t shop. But I’ve met many vegans who don’t want pets at all. Including myself, I find the concept of owning a pet a little strange. But that’s something everyone should decide for themself.

I think it’s great that you don’t eat meat, that’s a step many people refuse to take. If you have recognized the horror of the animal industry, then try to avoid udder milk as well. The dairy industry is the meat industry, they go hand in hand. Dairy cows are sold as food for humans and animals after they are no longer profitable, after just a few years. Don’t force a life of misery on dairy cows.