Just come out and say your pro genicide man. Stop hiding behind Hamas as the reason for the Palestinian peoples current situation. Like I don’t even have to look far within Israeli government to find leaders openly saying, “Ya we are going to kill or expelle every Palestinian.”

Just come out and day it. You think every Arab and Muslim is a religious extremist and are terrorists. Just stop hiding behind the idea that the millions of people mostly kids and women in Palestine are acceptable casualties as long as it’s them and not us. Why aren’t we offering asylum to all none Hamas extremist in Palestine so we can protect them as well? Just say you are pro genicide dude.

Me: Let’s stop all genicide and oppression everywhere by whom ever.

You: ummm actually if we didn’t genicide them, they’d genicide us…

Me: The fuck?!

You: and America’s modern genicides and atrocities were much worse…

Me: The fuck is wrong with you!

Don’t get me wrong, Hamas are the worst of the “other” side but that’s why we would fight them as well if the roles were reversed. But I won’t want to achieve that goal by killing 40k innocent people. I’d be just as upset and angry. It’s asking for no genicide regardless of who’s the perpetrator or whos the victims?!

And also your argument is the equivalent to saying those being surprised by a stronger power can only fight back by conviction means? Or that the Palestinian people having negative views towards religious fundamentalist who are literally killing and starving their friends and family, forfeit their lives for said negative views? For example if you asked jews people in concentration camps during WWII if they had negative views towards German people, and taking their answer as a determining factor on if they live or die… Nazi Germany also called jews freedom fighters in occupied Poland terrorist. And some of those freedom fighters committed horrific crimes against German civilians… Was Nat Turner a freedom fighter or terrorist? Were native American raids on settlements built on their ancestors land righteous or terrorism?

Hamas wasn’t created in a vaccum.

Your way of thinking is like an abusive husband’s mindset.

Lol okay then way are voting. Why are you commenting? Rather than being proactive with a problem solving mindset you are just going to continue to do things that obviously don’t work? This isn’t some unavailable catastrophic outcome. This happened because people prefer to rip each other down than trying to lift each other up. If you aren’t fighting for marginalized people everywhere, why do you get mad when they respond with apathy or anger when you demand they support your ideals? Everyone is copable in this presidential outcome. No one group or person is 100% to blame. My 2020 vote for Biden has blood on it and that doesn’t sit well with me. I make up for it by doing more than just voting and insulting people on the internet. That’s how you gain votes. Not whatever you are doing. The DNC could have let Palestinian Americans speak, but they didn’t. They could have had a more left platform, but they didn’t. This centrists agenda has a 33% success rate over the past three elections and when democracy is at stake can you really be calus to your base? I have history and facts on my side.

What’s the definition of insanity?

And what’s your solution to those with legitimate hangups? Sit behind a keyboard and call them idiots? There was no downside to being 100% anti genicide. There is no downside to be for universal health care. There’s no downside to making education 100% free. There’s no downside to fighting for income redistribution.

What’s your solution to these real fucking problems? Because the democrats never truly tried any of these or even advocated for them. It’s been this way since the new deal. A slow decay to Jim crow, women’s suffrage, and xenophobia. We need new tactics because what you and the Democrat leadership is saying and doing isn’t fucking working!

Uhhhh no… Just no… Most Palestinian Americans don’t want genicide to go the other way… And the people living in Palestinian don’t have the capability to even have running water, electricity, airforce or navy let alone the capability to do a genicide so just no. Pro Isreal / pro genicide people were going to vote for Trump regardless… How about a no genicide party? Is that too much to ask?

Difference between you and rational people is we are trying to get the best and not just the least worst people. I voted blue but it’s obvious change is needed.

Okay but if we are guaranteed to lose without them, what’s the harm in giving them what they want? Losing while taking the morally right position is never wrong. We spit in the Arab/Muslim/Palestinians/far left Americans faces and they stayed home on election day. So what’s the harm in at least giving into their demands? The Republicans do that for their base and are winning even when they lose elections. So I’m arguing a change in tactics because we are literally taking the insanity route if we don’t.

My argument is what did the democrats have to lose for supporting Gaza/Palestinians? It’s obvious not running a fully left facing candidate and campaign was a mistake.

We are mad at the wrong people. The reality of the situation is that the democrats can’t win without the far left of the party. So why won’t we extend an olive branch? If we get a next time, what are we going to do differently?! This is the reality. Either we wake up to that or keep losing. Pick one.

Ya we’re essentially their servants.

This his home so hard. My pups just marched into the living room to demand dinner. My cattle dog was straight up knocking the controller out of my hand. (if you have a cattle dog you understand my pain)

Technical there was room for two on that door

There’s ignorance then there’s way beyond ignorance. It’s like if someone came to me and said all conservatives ready babies before going to bed, and if respond with “Ya, that obviously true.” What he was saying and advocating for is literally the most reviling and evil thing humanity does to fellow humans. Having to justify genicide is never acceptable and the backlash he received should be towards everyone supporting it, even in the smallest of ways. Biden, Trump, and anyone of power should have to see the faces of those harmed by their continued support of Isreal. I’m glad this nobody of the internet came around but let’s keep that same energy for those really doing the harm.

Yup. It’s not like they asked to have other people’s stuff in their museums. They killed and conquered, then took anything that wasn’t nailed down.

Ya but the toilet is in the shower and the bowl is two inches from the wall

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Weeeeellllllllll does your bank account have seemingly 10000 lifetimes worth of money? That’ll tell you if it’s legal or not for you to do it.