That there is no perfect defense. There is no protection. Being alive means being exposed; it’s the nature of life to be hazardous—it’s the stuff of living.
I told you would downplay russian atrocities and come up with some CIA word salad. You’ve never been to Ukraine, you don’t speak Ukrainian and you dare lecture me and tell me that russian invasion is not that bad?
Get fucked, you vile tankie! I hope the very atrocities you deny will catch up to you one day!
Of course, they support the killing. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t glorify Mao; a mass murders and an authoritarian scumbag.
Yes, they do wish Ukrainians death. They support the russian invasion and the russian occupation. The instance is rife with cheering for the russian army.
The NATO stuff is a ruse. Just a way to cover their support for genocidal imperialism. Ukraine was neutral … wait for it … before the russians invaded.
That thread is a cesspool of support russian genocidal imperialim.
Communists want the war to end and blame NATO for provoking and prolonging it.
This basically means we want russia to win to conduct more atrocities likes in Bucha. Just wild uncontrolled killing of civilians, rape and destruction. And Bucha is just one example that got in the news. There are mass graves in Izyum. Russians targeting civilians with drones in Kherson. Russians bombing a children’s cancer hospital with cruise missile.
But no, NATO made them do it! And not a word about russian atrocities.
I also doubt that Russia banned the Ukrainian language or sent people to torture camps for speaking it. Could you provide a source for this?
You do know how to use web search, right? You’re just going to say some non-sequitur about NATO and bla bla bla or that it’s all made up.
https://khpg.org/en/1608814097
I answered a few messages above. I doubt that the devs wish harm to Ukraine or people in general. And even if they did, you would be no better than them 🤷
That’s not what I asked though.
We both agree that lemmygrad actively support the russian invasion of Ukraine. They cheer on the invasion and call for russian military success? Is this not true?
I asked you why I shouldn’t hate them for it? Nothing to do with being no better them or whatever. I asked why I shouldn’t hate people who support the invasion of my country and wish me harm?
But you are trying to make something bad look good. Mao is a bad person. He is a mass murder, an authoritarian. Good things can and should be achieved without mass murder.
Their opposition to NATO expansion is just another facet of their support for genocidal imperialism because they know that being in NATO makes it much less likely that russians will invade. The “US greater evil” is all BS. If they truely believed that they would move to russia or china. But they don’t, they LARP as communists while stuffing their mouths with Big Macs and playing US-developed video games (in which they try to role play their imperialist fantasies).
For example, looking at the upvotes on this comment from Lemmygrad’s world news, it’s clear that they feel sympathy for Ukraine. There are individuals, like this commenter, who suggest bombing Ukraine, but the comment is downvoted.
Really, this is best you could find? You’re really grasping at straws here. How is this a proxy war? Russian literally invaded my country. This is a russian genocidal invasion. If the Americans forced everyone in a hypothetically annexed Basra to eat tex-mex pork chops and banned Arabic and sent anyone caught speaking it to torture camps, you wouldn’t call it genocidal imperialism? Just war, right?
I asked you some clear and direct questions and you come up with BS? Do you even believe what you are writing or are you just essentially shitposting?
We both know they actively support and cheer on the russian invasion. In an explicit and genuine manner. They want russia to be successful in its invasion of Ukraine. They want Ukrainian speakers in the occupied territories to be sent to torture camps. It is not difficult to say the russians were wrong to invade and it is wrong to commit atrocities and torture people (instead of just blaming Ukraine for mobilization).
Why should I not hate them for this? Why shouldn’t I want them to meet the same fate as the “Donbas Cowboy”, Russell Bentley? Just imagine what was going through his mind in his last moments - must have a been a true moment of clarity. I want them to achieve that same that same level of clarity.
Can you explain this to me? You keep ignoring this point.
Then why are you white-washing Mao’s atrocities? Surely, if you think the death and absurd brutality (cultural revolution?) is not good thing, you would support movements and leaders who don’t engage in such conducts.
Come on now. Don’t play dumb.
They openly support and cheer for the Russian invasion? Why would I not hate them for this?
Show me an example of them condemning russian atrocities. Just one. I shouldn’t hate people who white-wash russian crimes and claim they never happened?
Show me an example of them recognizing Ukrainian self-determination? One shouldn’t hate people who want you to be a colony of the shithole that is russia?
Where is the strawman?
One would have to be a genocidal imperialist to state that a country should not have the right to aspire to join NATO (especially if you border russia).
Try speaking Ukrainian in the occupied territories or opening a Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
No, you just want to white wash russian crimes and the degenerates at Lemmygrad.
For example, when the US invaded Iraq, did they do the following:
He is an admin of lemmygrad. A cesspool of degenerate LARPers that support genocidal imperialism.
Mao is a mass murderer and an authoritarian. If you support him, you are white washing his crimes. You do understand that good things can be achieved without mass killings and implementing an authoritarian, one party state? Difficult stuff, I know!
No, they support the killing of Ukrainians and extermination of Ukrainian identity. They support interment of ten of thousands of Ukrainian civilians in russian torture camps. They support the destruction of the Ukraine as a nation and Ukrainian cultural identity.
It is fair and just to want such vile individuals to get a taste of their own medicine.
The NATO expansion stuff is a ruse. NATO expansion is determined by national self-determination; especially when your neighbour is a country where a strong majority of the population are genocidal imperialist.
Bluesky is a corporate hedge to delay the social network business from becoming not a business, it is headed by variously naive or disengenous tech people who believe they are creating the future when they are mercenaries for the past.
That’s a great sounding description.
It’s too bad we can’t add it to their about about page.
I personally lean towards disingenuous though. Tech oligarchs and their lackeys are many things, but not naive.
It puzzles me why he might administrate both instances.
Come on now. Does it really puzzle you why he would admin lemmygrad? I am sorry, I don’t buy this.
He made quite a lot of bad stuff, that’s true. However, he also liberated the country from foreign occupation and advanced literacy, women’s rights, basic healthcare, education, and life expectancy. China’s population nearly doubled under his leadership. This is why he is considered controversial. It’s strange to compare him with someone who occupied half of Europe.
So you’re saying that there is something inherent to Chinese culture that would not make it possible to advance literacy, women’s right, basic healthcare without mass killings and brutality? Mao is a mass murderer.
You made conclusions about his opinions yourself and are trying to argue against them. Condemn actual statements. I don’t see dessalines wishing harm on you, but I do see you doing the very thing you criticize him for.
Dessalines admins a instance that openly supports russia’s (a country that’s not in any way socialist) genocidal invasion of my country. That’s not wishing me harm?
No, he is not. Check admins section on lemmygrad.ml, which profile do you think belongs to dessalines? He is only admin of lemmy.ml.
Are you sure about that? Why does this page state that:
Lemmygrad was created by dessalines and Farmer Heck.[a] It has over 34,000 posts and over 360 active users.[2]
With a further clarification that Muad’Dibber (who is currently an admin) is dessalines
Currently known as Muad’Dibber and Black Tulip, respectively, on Lemmygrad.’
Is Muad’Dibber not dessalines?
It’s a controversial figure, but it doesn’t mean that the dev supports crimes or genocides.
Controversial figure? Mao was a brutal dictator that directly caused an inordinate amount of deaths and suffering. He is no better than Stalin, Pinochet, Hitler or Pol Pot.
Since he runs lemmygrad, he most definitely supports the genocide of Ukrainians in the occupied territories. Before you start acting out, I’d like to see you and your family try and speak Ukrainian in the occupied and try and publicly oppose russian occupaiton. I think the example I provided with the “Donbas Cowboy”, Russell Bentley, should give you an idea of what life is like there.
And then there is also their support for the genocide of Uighurs in Xinjiang.
For you this is just random internet drama. I am not going to tolerate any degenerate LARPer shilling for russia and the CCP.
You judge people who support genocide, I get it and I here with you. But wishing death upon others because of their opinions? That’s just hypocrisy.
These are not mere opinions. These scoundrels wish me, my family and my fellow citizens harm in the most pathetic way possible; by LARPing online as marxist-leninists. It is reasonable to want them to end up like “Donbas Cowboy”, Russell Bentley. This a just and fair end for Western LARPers who whitewash genocide.
My man, the head developer of lemmy is the admin of lemmygrad. He has a fucking Mao picture in his profile!
Don’t even try to weasel your way around this. This is not going to work with me.
I hate these people. Pathetic larpers living in democratic countries while supporting authoritarianism and genocide. And when I say hate, I don’t mean it in the internet slang way (“hater”).
How should I put this without breaking any rules? I genuinely wish they meet the same fate as “Donbas Cowboy”, Russell Bentley:
Bentley, 64, was a fixture in the low-level Russian incursion in Ukraine dating back to 2014. Calling himself the Donbas Cowboy, Bentley became a popular figure on Russian propaganda networks for his criticism of the U.S. government.
Bentley’s wife, Lyudmila, then claimed that Russian soldiers from a tank battalion abducted him.
According to the Investigative Committee, Vansyatsky, Agaltsev, and Iordanov tortured Bentley on April 8, and he died shortly afterward.
Vansyatsky and Agaltsev are suspected of blowing up a car with Bentley’s body in it and ordering Bazhin to get rid of what was left of his remains.
Calling them “socialist digital creators” is misleading at best, if not an outright insult to socialism.
They are marxists-leninists who whitewash the crimes committed by the USSR and CCP. They support the genocidal invasion by Russia, a country that is neither socialist or democratic; it’s an authoritarian capitalist oligarchy.
There is no double standard. You don’t see the CTO of reddit running a subreddit dedicated to whitewashing the Pinochet regime and/or western colonialism in Africa or Asia.
Reddit is run by sketchy and corrupt individuals, it is possible that in a just world we would even call them criminals. Lemmy’s marxists-leninists are openly supportive of genocidal actions and brutal authoritarian leadership. There is no comparison.
This is hilarious!
I honestly still don’t get what is meant by downvotes in this thread. To me this comes off as any opposition/critique is transphobic by default; not a viable perspective in my humble opinion.
Apologist of what? Transphobia? You are not justified in making such a statement.
By the same logic, would I be justified in labelling you an orientalist; a bearer of the “white [person’s] burden” (in the metaphorical sense)?
This is not a matter of justification or sympathy of transphobia. You can’t condemn hundreds of millions of people (billions?) as evil just because they don’t 100% align with your worldview. Especially if you know nothing about various countries’ LGBT communities and their views and priorities.
How do you know your maximalist approach is shared by the global trans community? How many languages do you speak? Have you ever been part (IRL, not online) of another country’s trans community? Living there and interacting with other people (trans and not trans).
Why are you saying that I believe that “[trans people] should [not] force their identities and pronouns onto other people?” Why are you putting words in my mouth? Is this because I provided a critique of your approach and offered a perspective from a non-english speaking country? I brought up the natal women’s spaces example because it’s a real world example that shows the limits of your approach. You don’t know whether trans folk in non-english speaking countries are in 100% alignment with you on this issue.
I will admit I don’t either. But unlike you I do have some exposure to our local LGBT community and to me this comes off as almost orientalist. You definitely have a lack of appreciation that people in other countries (trans or otherwise) may view things through a different lens and have their own strategies and priorities.
What do you mean by “the downvotes on this thread … [is a] … very good way to identify transphobic people”?
Which specific post is transphobic? Considering that you are asking for a major instance-wide ban campaign, you should expect people to question the criteria for the application of such bans.
You didn’t even provide a basic definition of your understanding what needs to be banned or what qualifies as “just asking questions”. Do you not see how this is completely unworkable?
I don’t support transphobia, but this sounds extremely aggressive and almost unworkable. Who gets to decide what qualifies as “thinly veiled transphobia”? or “transphobic dogwhistles” and what approach is used to disperse bans?
For example, in many countries some people who might be generally supportive of trans people (in the sense that they would want you to be the best version of yourself) might oppose inclusion of transwomen in natal-women’s spaces. Does this qualify for an automatic ban?
Some might claim this is transphobic, but my answer to that would be: How do you know? Do you speak the local language? Have you lived there? Do you have any knowledge about the region’s history? Do you know what the attitude of the local LGBT community is to the above-mentioned example?
We shouldn’t limit ourselves by the assumptions (and polemics) of a given region even if English is the lingua franca of the internet. A lot of people in the world speak English as second language.
Hopefully more people from lemmy.blahaj.zone can go through the general communities on lemmy.world and the like and report as many of those users as possible so they can be banned from their instance.
I would definitely oppose this without addressing specifically what qualifies as “transphobia” and what the specific policies are with regards to moderator actions. Otherwise this is just some rampage witchhunt against perceived enemies.
And the vast majority of russians couldn’t care less.
Cheers!
I’ve moved over two Lemmy two months (I got the feeling that I needed a Reddit alternative).
I still visit Reddit for more niche content, but for many things Lemmy works fine.
That being said, Lemmy is a lot smaller than Reddit. I believe Lemmy (all instances) only have 50K DAUs, while Reddit has 73 million DAUs, so a lot of things will be missing.
Could please share the article from the screenshot? The one where he says he wants to paywall r/asshole design?
So basically anything goes in terms of content…
EDIT: The reference to assholedesign is a joke, the first part is legite (that they are generally considering paywalled subs).
These are big technical issues IMO, especially considering the large amount of tankies on Lemmy. It doesn’t help that many tankies have accounts on LW and other “normal” instances.