The only real attempt at monetisation that I’ve seen is https://beetoons.tv/, but they use their own crypto - making it like Odysee. Why is that?

Edit: Please, before you answer consider this monetisation doesn’t mean ads!

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    A few reasons:

    • The userbase on the Fediverse is not big enough to support a donation-based economy.
    • The userbase on the Fediverse is not big enough to support an ad-based economy. Even if by some magical powers we got an ethical ad network working here (which didn’t track users and focused solely on paying people by the opportunity of broadcasting their inventory) there wouldn’t be enough eyeballs to attract advertisers.
    • The userbase is still anti-business.
    • For all its faults, Youtube is hands-down is the platform that pay the most to content creators.
    • Content creators are not willing to spend their time building out audiences on new platforms. Principles be damned, they will just go where the money is.

    I’ve added support for crowdfunding to Communick earlier this year, and even people who are active on the Fediverse and have a vested interest in having monetization alternatives turned it down. This is why all we see are these completely fringe ideas that can only appeal for the get-rich-quick crowd.

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      The userbase is still anti-business.

      And a significant part will remain so. This should be a haven from capitalist/corporate platforms, not a parallel market.

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    I’m not sure what you’re talking about.

    None of the major Fediverse projects have real monetization.
    Why single out PeerTube?

    Why would you expect monetization at this point?

    Do you think it should be monetized, or are you just surprised it hasn’t been?

    What form of monetization are you imagining?

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    Because anyone with a computer can host a peertube instance. Therefore is you want your videos on peertube it will cost you nothing more than what you already have : a computer running and an internet access.

    The only real barrier is having the time and the knowledge to set it up.

    Peertube is tech solution to host video, not a way to make money with videos. Monetisation can be done with peertube, but it’s up to creators to set it up.

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      Peertube is tech solution to host video, not a way to make money with videos. Monetisation can be done with peertube, but it’s up to creators to set it up.

      Why should it be up to the creators? On youtube creators don’t have to think about “setting up monetisation”. Upload a video, ads are active, done. Peertube doesn’t have something that simple - and I’m not saying “we need ads”. Monetisation != ads.

      Anti Commercial-AI license

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        Because YouTube wants you to not think, but just provide content and shut up.

        Peertube (libre softwares in generals) requires to think about things and to make choices by yourself. It doesn’t try to be more than what it is = a tool for easily host videos.

        Peertube isn’t a platform.

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          Because YouTube wants you to not think, but just provide content and shut up.

          What’s wrong with that? When you drive a car, ride a bus, fly on a plane, or use anything in general, do you have to understand the inner workings of everything?

          Anti Commercial-AI license

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            Well if you don’t know how to operate a car, you should not drive. If you don’t know the basics, you won’t be able to do small repairs yourself. If you don’t know nothing about cars at all, you will likely have to paid more than someone with more knowledge to obtain the same result. Ask any cab if he just pays and doesn’t know anything about cars.

            If you’re a video creator who wants to make money with your videos, you should be knowledgeable about monetisation and video making. Don’t be lazy, it’s just your job.

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    The problem isn’t making monetization available, it’s having sufficient pull in the market to make it viable.

    And then the next problem is being able to scale the network big enough to handle the traffic and storage requirements for hosted video. When let me runs out of go juice The traffic can easily be handled by a few inexpensive servers. When we’re talking about video storage those petabytes start getting really expensive.

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      The problem isn’t making monetization available, it’s having sufficient pull in the market to make it viable.

      That’s creating an chicken and egg problem.

      We won’t create monetization options until there’s pull
      We won’t join until there’s monetization

      Someone has to break the tie and it’s much easier for us than content creators.

      When we’re talking about video storage those petabytes start getting really expensive.

      You’re worrying about a scenario a decade out. Also it’s not like peertube is a single entity. It’s a federated group of servers that will each host a part of the total. Not every peer will host the total, so there are no such restrictions on storage.

      Anti Commercial-AI license